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Subject: picasso dove and sun original drawing lithograph Posted By: art2004 Msg #: Posted On: 3/23/2007 5:31 AM (Updated on 3/23/2007 2:12 PM by art2004) 4 Replies Hello again you all check out this picasso my id is art2004 and the listing is d'ART ID#: 76170 and d'ART ID#: 76148 i've had it for a while and i had contacted the picasso project at texas A M university a Dr Mallen and in his opinion it could be real but reasearch needs to be done on it do you think i should invest to do it i have nothing in it so far thanks picasso dove and sun original drawing lithograph Hay mike I have no idea what your talking about.me trying to sell this a year ago because it wasn't me as for two of them I only have that one.and if you can't tell that they are different I don't know what to say I just have it on here to get a response but all I get are rude comments from people like you below is a copy of the email from the picasso project check out their website and you will see that Dr mallen is the foremost expert on picasso but to spend a thousand dollars is not in my budget now since I bought my house back in 1998 it was sent to new York but with out the provenance the buyer back out then brought it to getty art research facility in LA and they did look at it and said it does have a potential of being from that time period 50-60 s due to the rust on the nails and that it was done on arches wove paper and the hand writing style was Spanish. But again I would need to spend money on mass spectrometer to analyze the age of the paper and the ink that was even more then what Dr mallen wanted fully understand that there are fakes out there and people try ing to comment fraud to sell them. However I had received a email from a collector back in 98 also he has several originals and he also has a small piece the same size as mine but of a different subject that matches the uneven cuts on the right side of mine.his father had bought it at a private auction in 1958 in south America that picasso had done to raise funds for the Spanish and French communist movement and that I will have a hard time trying to get this authenticated because of that reason and also his heirs in NY won't admit that he did the auctions had at that time a website on AOL with the image of this and of the other one and said I was going to make silk screens of mine and sell them but I received emails saying I can't from some law firm in NY that represents the picasso heirs don't understand why they would email me since they deny that he had done the piece.according to the copyright law you can't reproduce a piece of art that is identical to the artist without permission from them or the heirs and since they deny that he had done it I should be able to no.hope fully some day a piece will come up that is proven and it does match the uneven cuts that are on the top of mine because mine is the bottom left corner from a larger sheet that had been cut down to do others can fully understand your comment but keep in mind I had bought this from a thirft shop in San Fernando valley California along with a ugly print by Diego rivero of a peddler and a small post card size one by Joan miro I’m sure your really getting a kick out of that but they both sold on ebay the diego sold for almost thousand and the miro sold for half that.and that was when that collector emailed me about the picasso and that I should end the auction and I did all three pieces were framed the same and all had white paint on the frame and glass like from when you use a roller I wish I had kept the paper that was on the back of the frame but then I was unaware of who picasso was or anything about art I was a welder for a studio in Hollywood and I had like the dove one but they were sold in a box lot I paid five bucks for them all and my friend told me about ebay so he listed them and since then that dam picasso bird gave me a new hobby that has paid off well for me because I bought most every piece I found at yard sale good will thrift shops and such I had once bought 4 original aldo luongo paintings one titled on the back halen my love on canvas and one of two chlidren writing on board one of an old lady on canvas and one nude that sold on ebay for close to $17,000.00 total and hundreds of other lithographs etchings serigraphs bookplates ledgers.so even if i don't ever get this authenticated .it has made me a lot of extra money
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